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Author:  Dave Stubbs [ Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Punched paper loops at Speke Hall

I had an organ booking at Speke Hall near Liverpool this weekend and I was taken to see an interesting collection of looped paper music in their archive, which have no information associated with them.

There appears to be twenty-something notes (based on a rough approximation of slot spacing), so I can only assume it would have been a keyless hand-turned organ of some kind?

Does anyone know what these are and what would they have been played on?

I can only assume that it is some form of early Karaoke (heaven forbid!), where a verse is played in a loop for people to sing along with!

The music is about 5 and a half inches wide (138mm).

File comment: The collection in the Speke Hall archive
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File comment: One of the music loops with the title "Sun of my soul"
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File comment: Close up of the title
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File comment: A direction of play arrow!
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File comment: The slots seem relatively large (I didn't measure them)
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File comment: An extract of the list of titles. The measurements should be in millimetres and not centimetres.
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File comment: Another title list extract, with more 'modern' titles!
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Photo's taken by yours truly, with the kind permission of the National Trust.

Speke Hall also has a weight driven Imhof and Mukle barrel organ, which I am hoping they will send me a picture to show on here, because the hall contains a number of items owned by other collections and the copyright owners don't allow photography in the hall (even though the organ is owned by the National Trust).

Author:  Rob Barker [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Punched paper loops at Speke Hall

Interesting what comes up! It looks like the music belongs to a table top reed organette, where the music goes under the instrument after passing through the keyless frame. They are usually 14 notes.

Author:  augsburger [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Punched paper loops at Speke Hall

The paper bands pictured are for a Seraphone, made in England, and
playing the same format as the popular Celestina. An endless band
adapter allowed it to play these "loops" as well as rolls. A tune list
may be found in the The Organette Music Repository at:
http://music.organettes.com/instruments/seraphone/home

Todd Augsburger
todd@rollerorgans.com
Roller Organs
www.rollerorgans.com

Author:  Dave Stubbs [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Punched paper loops at Speke Hall

Hi Todd, welcome to the forum and thanks for your reply which was very useful information.

Do you have a picture of the Seraphone with the adaptor that you could post on here?


Best Regards

Dave Stubbs (Site Admin)

Author:  augsburger [ Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Punched paper loops at Speke Hall

Here are pics of the Seraphone in my collection.

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File comment: Seraphone showing endless band adapter (instead of spooled roll)
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File comment: Seraphone organette
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Author:  Rob Barker [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Punched paper loops at Speke Hall

Sounds like you need to sell one to Speke Hall.

Author:  George Houghton [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Punched paper loops at Speke Hall

Thanks Todd .
Great pictures that solve the mystery.
Armed with the information, Dave can now go back to Speke Hall in the hope that he can find the hidden Seraphone.
:grinder: :crossfingers

George.

Author:  Dave Stubbs [ Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Punched paper loops at Speke Hall

This is a video of an organette collection, one of which shows a paper loop being played.


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